Thursday, October 3

Debanhi case | Interview with Mario Escobar: “Until they prove otherwise, I still think my daughter was murdered”

One week after the young Mexican Debanhi Escobar was found dead, the investigation to clarify what happened continues to become entangled with the appearance of new details that follow without clearing up numerous questions.

The publication of new videos from security cameras, the dismissal of two specialized prosecutors for omissions during the case or the statements on television programs of those who were with her the night of her disappearance have continued to fuel doubts about this case, which became one of the most mediatic among the wave of disappearances of young girls suffered by the northern state of Nuevo León.

The father of the Law student of 18 years, Mario Escobar, was especially critical of the initial work of the authorities, who had already searched up to four ro occasions in the motel facilities where Debanhi finally appeared dead.

The investigation of the case, reclassified from disappearance to femicide, still does not clarify the circumstances in which Debanhi ended up inside an abandoned water tank.

According to the authorities, all the lines are open and there is no hypothesis considered as main.

Serene and tired, Mario Escobar spoke via video call with BBC Mundo to share the latest details of the investigation.

Professor, Like his wife, he emphatically stresses that will not stop fighting until the case is clarified and justice is served with the who was his only daughter.


Three weeks have passed since Debanhi’s disappearance and one week since he was found dead. How are you and your wife?

Obviously, we are devastated by the news . For not finding her alive, that was the intention. But well, in the end the girl was found, so in a way, I am more serene and calmer because we now have a place to cry.

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Mario Escobar and his wife, Dolores Bazaldua, trust that the authorities will end up clarifying the circumstances of their daughter’s death.

Is it true that you have received death threats?

Yes, I don’t know if they will be in play or if they will be true. They leaked my phone and I have received thousands of calls every day. But most of them are from people supporting us, supporting the cause, so that femicides end in Nuevo León and throughout Mexico.

I think that was exactly what they talked to Debanhi about before to go out that Friday night.

Yes, my wife told him: “don’t go out, look, there is a lot of insecurity, stay here”. I showed him the photos of the either 16 disappeared that were then circulating on social networks. It was the last day of school and she wanted to have fun. They don’t listen at that age, they don’t see the problems that can happen.

In effect, there is a worrying increase in the disappearance of young girls in Nuevo León. What is the situation today for adolescents and young women in the state, and in Mexico in general?

They have the right to have fun, it is not okay that bad people want to cut off that fun. But they also have to listen to the hearts of parents and teachers when they tell them that there is a lot of violence, femicides… I tell them that they have their whole lives ahead of them to have some fun.

    Mario Escobar y Dolores Bazaldua

And you and the rest of the parents of young girls ? How do you live this situation of crisis and insecurity?

In Mexico you cannot live Calm down because every time your son goes out, and even more so if he is your only son or daughter, regardless of whether he is a man or a woman, you are aware that he will return safely. Sometimes they say: “I can now, I can take care of myself, nothing is going to happen”, but sometimes things don’t work out that way. I hope that my daughter’s case is a trigger for the insecurity situation in Nuevo León and Mexico to change, you can’t live like this.

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  • How do you remember those days from Debanhi’s disappearance until she was found? Did you always hope to find her alive?

    I never, never, never, never lost hope of finding my daughter alive. I always had the faith in my God to find her alive, until the last moment I prayed to find her alive. We were psychologically prepared that we could find her in any way, but our hearts always told us that we were going to find her alive. And well, it was not like that.

    The investigation of the case has been full of questions since the beginning, and you have harshly criticized the work of the authorities, especially the Prosecutor’s Office. What is your biggest complaint about the process?

    The biggest criticism is that we were late a lot to do this, to get to this point where videos come out and a lot of people start posting individual videos. Now videos are leaked that are supposed to be in chain of custody by the authorities, and well, whoever has to pay has to pay. That is not up to me to decide.

    Búsqueda de Debanhi Escobar.

    That there were irregularities was confirmed this week when the dismissal of two officials was announced, including the prosecutor specializing in Missing Persons with whom you were especially critical, for “omissions” and “deficiencies ” during the investigation, the state attorney general said. Have they specified what those errors were?

    It is very obvious: that after four sessions [de búsqueda en la zona del motel donde apareció Debanhi] in which they were there, they did not find it. If they didn’t find her, I suppose it’s because she wasn’t there. The fifth [búsqueda] is found. Well, that is what we are trying to verify.

    What is the explanation What do the authorities give you as to why it was not found in those first four searches? Wasn’t the cistern where it appeared specifically searched?

    As I said, I guess they didn’t find it because they had every chance to check those parts. Later, they find her. Let’s see what determines the expert opinion, the analysis, the recreation of facts, what can come out, what the Prosecutor’s Office has and the videos that remain to be checked.

    • Questions about the case of Debanhi Escobar, the young Mexican woman who appeared dead in a cistern after missing for two weeks
    • You pointed to the possibility that someone had planted the body days after those searches, do you still think about it?

      Yes. I mean, definitely no line of investigation is ruled out until proven otherwise, I’ve always said that. And the analysis of the expert opinion is going to give us many explanations and many things are going to be defined. Maybe some things are true, others false, some set up, others not set up. But I am hopeful that now we are on the right track and this situation will be resolved.

      Then trust the Prosecutor’s Office again after these changes and that it becomes known how Debanhi died.

      Yes, I hope that, now yes, we will find the true result and it will be clarified in coordination with all the authorities involved: the support of the federal commission by President López Obrador, of the state by [el gobernador de Nuevo León] Samuel García, the Attorney General’s Office… Now there are many people thanks to whom we can be sure that this ends as it should.

      Mario Escobar y Dolores Bazaldua

      Why do you think the motel where Debanhi appeared was uncooperative from the start and initially denied that their surveillance cameras were recording?

      It is now up to the authorities to establish responsibilities with the people involved in the process, and that is the right thing to do. Well, the correct thing is that from the first day they would have told us that there were cameras. Believe me, I would have a quiet life with my daughter here yelling “Debanhi!” at her, which I still do every day at home, I can’t stop doing it because it’s a way of being with her.

      In these videos you can see your daughter walking alone through the motel facilities and no person with she. However, there are no images that show how it ended up in the tank, so the Prosecutor’s Office says that considers all the hypotheses

      . Do you still think that she was murdered and rule out that she fell by accident?

    That’s right, definitely. Until they prove otherwise, I still think my daughter was murdered, I’m not going to change my mind. Many videos continue to come out, and this will give us the guideline to assign responsibilities to people who deserve it.

    Authorities of The @FiscaliaNL showed the last moments captured on video of #DebanhiEscobar, at the entrance and around the abandoned restaurant of the Nueva Castilla MotelVIDEO: SPECIAL pic.twitter. com/JVe3WENBlI

    — El Universal (@El_Universal_Mx) April 27, 2022

    Forensic tests determined that he died for a severe concussion to the head, but you said you didn’t trust the official results and ordered your own necropsy. What do those results show, are they different from the official ones?

    I cannot reveal the results, the lawyers are analyzing them. Many causes of death will be determined there and, if there are differences, it must be determined by the competent authority.

    Mario Escobar y Dolores Bazaldua

    The person in charge of the forensic medical service said that Debanhi was alive when she fell into the cistern, although later the attorney general qualified his words.

    It is a version of the person who deciphers the necropsy, but it does not mean that it is the truth. That’s why we put in another expert opinion to compare, and well, establish responsibilities if they exist. And if it is what he says, then let him verify it with facts, images, photos. That is what he said, and immediately afterwards, both the Femicide prosecutor and the attorney general clarified that all hypotheses were open.


    Speaks to many media outlets, participates in press conferences … where do you get your strength from?

    From my wife. From my wrist [muestra una perrita a cámara], which belonged to my daughter. She is called Bombona. Now he misses her. It’s my turn to take care of her because she misses her mom a lot, Debanhi.

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    Mario Escobar spoke with BBC Mundo from his home via video call.

    In all this maelstrom, have you had moments to reflect on what happened?

    Obviously I know that my daughter is no longer with us physically, but she is in my heart, that of my wife and my dog’s. I think I will never assimilate it, because I will think that she left on a trip and that one day she will return. And if not, then I’m going to catch up.

    What is the main objective of this fight that you are carrying out through constant meetings with authorities , media presence…?

    My goal is for this not to happen again. My daughter fought for a different world, for equality, against injustice. She was in the Women’s Day marches, I gave her permission. We [sus padres], as teachers, is the least we can instill in our children.

    Mario EscobarMario Escobar y Dolores Bazaldua
    Debanhi was the only daughter of Mario Escobar and his wife.

    Do you have any idea when a final conclusion might be known of the investigation?

    There are many teams working and I have a team of lawyers verifying all situations. We hope to have information soon because this is already a global situation. All of Mexico turned to see Debanhi, and the world turned to see what is happening in Mexico because this cannot continue to happen. We hope it doesn’t happen again.

    Do you want to send a message to all those people who are pending in your daughter’s case and who Have you shown support in protests and demonstrations?

    Tell them that we are not going to stop. Maybe we see ourselves calmer, more tired because a long time has passed, but we continue with all our hearts to be able to try to tell the truth.

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